I think the wolfgan link is interesting -the idea that everything which is complex may derive from something which is very simple is fascinating. I think it is relevant to our work and we may want to exploit in our workk, especially in the theme of transformations or metmorphoses.

I think our interest in black holes and cosmos in general is is not so much in the physical aspect but how it relates to the psychological/ philosophical .

Watching these programs on the bbc we realise even more than before that we are tiny minute specs, like little pieces of dust, probably entirely here by chance. We are drawn to the fact that perhaps we are completely unimportant and probably even superflous. We question our existence and also the existence of God. Personally it draws me away from the belief that there is one, this is quite scarry, because it takes away the idea away that I was created with some sort of mission, that I am especially here to fullfil some sort of task.

I just finished a book called nause. It is just like you say joc, everything that one reads seems to relate to the lines of thought going through the head. Anyway, It is about the feeling of a guy who suddenly has this realisation that we are hiding from the truth of what it really means to be in this world.

He says people give themselves false reasons and lead petite bourgouise lives because the feeling of why we exist is frightening. The emptynes, the vastness, the feeling that we are just here by chance only here existing and nothing more is frightening.

He started to analyse how life is build up in moments and whether one moment ever exists in itself. It is very much a study into time, space and what makes us who we are.

And yet the vast emptyness and nothingness also creates a space in which we are free. It is a different freedom than we usually think about because it can be quite unpleasant.

It is linked to the idea that nothing is predestined, in other words no god. To him life comes without any meaning and yet it is up to us to create one. It is why we always have to question and requestion everything and not just go along with what happens or simply operate as part of a larger system.

I have no idea if i understoof much of that book and it doesn’t really matter. But i thnk interesting is how studies of physics and science and psychological aspects are more and more being linked up to say similar things. Obviuously these are no revolutionary ideas but I but I have been thinking baout it quite a lot lately. And somehow I feel we are feeling the same things, perhaps in different ways though.

Having said all this I also think that perhaps we are searching too far in reference to testbed. We want to express everything in one piece of work and may get a bit lost on the way. We have to be careful not to think too much and try and think in concrete ideas.

Everything to Nothing.

Guys, I think everyone should have a honeymoon, it's great for thinking! Reading the blog it looks like my thoughts share something in common with the route that Josch has investigated.

Thinking of the universe, I see as a starting point or a metaphor. Faced with the possibility of nothingness or for some no god, I’ve kept returning to how that thought makes me feel and how others may feel and what the reaction to this potential reality may be? And the implications of the self.

I think the shift in focus from the collective to the individual is a natural one for us following on from our work with the group and its threat to the individual's identity. These thoughts have had me twisting though.


Haruki Murakami’s Norwegian Wood (and Charlotte Cotton’s Words Without Pics) really tickled some thoughts...

“It can be incredibly effective when three people work at it like that” Norwegian Wood

This seemed really uncanny; 3 people in a deeply socio-physcological-philosophical situation, who together could face the world and understand themselves better together.

In the face of fear and ‘nothingness’ we each create a comfort or look for a state of reassurance that will protect us, strengthen us against potential ‘nothingness’. There is always ‘I and him’, ‘I and her’, ‘I and us’, ‘I and God’, ‘I and science’. Even ‘I and nothing’ is something, it has some kind of substance, if only blackness or the letters of the word that it forms. This ‘something’, whatever it is that we surround ourselves with, elements of society for instance, shapes the I or self. The ‘self’ seems like light; without it we would have no trees, no flowers or rocks as we know them, the ‘something’ throws light onto the self and forms our view of it. I guess it’s our mirror.

It seems to me that us, JocJonJosch is not too different to this; with the thought that we have nothing and that we may continue to have and be nothing we have decided that we are stronger and more assured together. Therefore we have something.


From “everything to nothing” Norwegian Wood

This statement immediately reminded me of the description one of those scientists (in the Discovery series I edited) gave for the birth of the universe, “from nothing to everything’. And it seemed curious to look at it in reverse.

It’s interesting that this ‘everything’ or ‘something’ can be so fragile. So even after constructing our ‘something’ / comfort we are still very fragile and can be pushed into ‘nothingness’. What I mean is that if you are open to believing the possibility of nothingness or that there is no god, then anything is possible at any time which has the potential of hugely powerful implications both good and bad.

This fragility that follows us unnoticed like our own shadow until it claims us unannounced, stalks us all. It occurred to me that JocJonJosch must have it’s own ‘shadow’ too. So what if we were to introduce this ‘shadow’, a potential element of fragility into our own work and directly into our group? What if we were to invite another person or artist to interfere and challenge us and our work (whether it’s with sound, physically, whatever...). How would our work, us as three individuals and us as a group respond?

Of course fragility is not normally purposefully introduced into life so there would have to be some acceptance of that pretext but anything beyond that invitation is unscheduled as much as possible.

Wrap

hi,

I did meet one of the representative of Wrap 3 yesterday on one of the 100% design events.

have a look here : www.wrap3.co.uk

the latest cubes are projected from the inside so you don't cast a shadow when you stand in front of it. They also can do all kind of shapes...what would be pretty cool!

Wolfram

where science meets the eyes. very nice....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60P7717-XOQ



otherlinks:
http://www.wolfram.com/
http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=black+hole